What happened to Naso Tang?

[fishyideas]

Had it for a week or so, been eating healthily and swimming around actively, grazing on the algae. Then, it happened just yesterday night, not eating but still swimming around. This morning found it hiding and laying on the pump, after an hour, it was up swimming again actively, but still not eating… any ideas on why?

 

[SnazzyUrchin792]

I see spots on it, but the photos are blurry. I think they look too large to be ich. #fishmedic

 

[tzabor10]

What are the other tank mates?
Are you running UV?
Do you put out nori?

 

[fishyideas]

nori, seaweed pellets and occasionally mysis shrimp, other tank mates include a foxface a scopas tang and a blue tang

 

[fishyideas]

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I see spots on it, but the photos are blurry. I think they look too large to be ich. #fishmedic

e observation, I have notice tattered fins, but I still can’t confirm whether it is attacked and stressed

 

[tzabor10]

Could be getting the barbs of the Foxface. My sailfin and Foxface frequently go at it. Try to see if the marks are in a row

 

[fishyideas]

Thank

Could be getting the barbs of the Foxface. My sailfin and Foxface frequently go at it. Try to see if the marks are in a row

s for your reply, I’ll look for it and keep a close eye

 

[nereefpat]

That species actually will look like that as part of its nighttime coloration.

 

[fishyideas]

I see spots on it, but the photos are blurry. I think they look too large to be ich. #fishmedic

the spots are stress spots

 

[fishyideas]

That species actually will look like that as part of its nighttime coloration.

oh but that picture was taken in the morning while the lights were on

 

[fishyideas]

Could be getting the barbs of the Foxface. My sailfin and Foxface frequently go at it. Try to see if the marks are in a row

theres no marks of the foxface's barbs, but I have put it in a isolation box. It is angled weirdly and there's powdery patches over its frontal part, like flour consistency...

 

[fishyideas]

In the 3rd image, you can see the powdery/floury consistency patches that I’m talking about

 

[Sophie"s mom]

Had it for a week or so, been eating healthily and swimming around actively, grazing on the algae. Then, it happened just yesterday night, not eating but still swimming around. This morning found it hiding and laying on the pump, after an hour, it was up swimming again actively, but still not eating… any ideas on why?

The spots on it are stress related. Something is stressing it. Mine gets those spots but they come and go. Usually don't last more than a few minutes at a time. Can you get a cleared picture of it in white light? The spots I am talking about are the larger ones in his skin, not the floury ones. You need either @vetteguy53081 , or @Jay Hemdal

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

In the 3rd image, you can see the powdery/floury consistency patches that I’m talking about

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

As mentioned, the large white spots are stress/nighttime spots. In these photos, I think I can see some smaller spots. Is the fish breathing fast? Can you post a video? (I can measure its breathing rate from a clear video).

One thing - these blonde naso tangs have been having huge issues in the past few years. They arrive from overseas, do well for a short time, but then just crash. Nobody has identified the core issue with these, but I suspect it has something to do with the long supply chain now that Hawaii is closed down, and Covid changed so many flights. I think we are seeing an increase in blonde nasos being collected from further afield in SE Asia. They then have a long trip from the outer islands to the shipping cities and then they just break down due to the stress of it all.

Jay

 

[fishyideas]

The spots on it are stress related. Something is stressing it. Mine gets those spots but they come and go. Usually don't last more than a few minutes at a time. Can you get a cleared picture of it in white light? The spots I am talking about are the larger ones in his skin, not the floury ones. You need either @vetteguy53081 , or @Jay Hemdal

This is a clearer image of the stress spots or the larger spots

 

[kenchilada]

Looks sick as hell to me, I’d already have him in copper power. I see stress/juv spots but there’s more going on than that.

 

[fishyideas]

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

As mentioned, the large white spots are stress/nighttime spots. In these photos, I think I can see some smaller spots. Is the fish breathing fast? Can you post a video? (I can measure its breathing rate from a clear video).

One thing - these blonde naso tangs have been having huge issues in the past few years. They arrive from overseas, do well for a short time, but then just crash. Nobody has identified the core issue with these, but I suspect it has something to do with the long supply chain now that Hawaii is closed down, and Covid changed so many flights. I think we are seeing an increase in blonde nasos being collected from further afield in SE Asia. They then have a long trip from the outer islands to the shipping cities and then they just break down due to the stress of it all.

Jay

Here’s the video attached for the breathing rate

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Here’s the video attached for the breathing rate

Ugh - the fish is sure in a bad way. I'll tell you right up front that you likely won't be able to save it.

It seems to be showing multiple symptoms: it is breathing too fast, (over 150 bpm, it should be around 80) it has cloudy fins (a sign of an overall infection; ich, bacteria or flukes) and then some of the smaller spots look like marine ich to me.

If you move it to a treatment tank and start coppersafe at 2.5 ppm, it will still take up to three days to work, and I just don't think the fish has that long.

You could try a 3 to 5 minute freshwater dip to try and buy some time, but the stress of that might prove to be immediately fatal.....sorry for the bad news!

 

[fishyideas]

Ugh - the fish is sure in a bad way. I'll tell you right up front that you likely won't be able to save it.

It seems to be showing multiple symptoms: it is breathing too fast, (over 150 bpm, it should be around 80) it has cloudy fins (a sign of an overall infection; ich, bacteria or flukes) and then some of the smaller spots look like marine ich to me.

If you move it to a treatment tank and start coppersafe at 2.5 ppm, it will still take up to three days to work, and I just don't think the fish has that long.

You could try a 3 to 5 minute freshwater dip to try and buy some time, but the stress of that might prove to be immediately fatal.....sorry for the bad news!

Thanks man, really appreciate you for replying.
Hopefully, I’m praying on a miracle that somehow the Naso Tang recovers (highly unlikely)

 

[fishyideas]

Thanks for all others who replied also!
-Cheers, have a good week