Copperband in 15gallon

[vetteguy53081]

Possible for a CBB to be in a 15 gallon. He would be the only fish in the tank with coral. Could I buy one super small and grow him out in it? How fast is there growth rate

I would consider a clown or a couple damsels in a 15g, and definitely not a CBB. The tank would be considered Compact for such a fish. Even a 40 breeder would be pushing it

 

[Anemone_Fanatic]

I'm not sure why you're asking for people's opinions, and then trying to disprove them when they aren't what you want to hear. A CBB is not a fish to be taken lightly, and certainly should not be in a 15 gallon. Either stick with small nano fish (as the size of your setup mandates) or upgrade to something in the 75 gallon range. Fish aren't commodities, they are living creatures which, if we are going to keep them in captivity, we need to treat with respect and care. That means not putting a big, delicate, expensive, disease-susceptible, tough-to-feed, and extremely active fish in a 15 gallon. A year of experience is a drop in the bucket compared to how long most of the people advising you have been in the hobby, and all of them are telling you it's a bad idea. Everyone in this thread is trying to help you, even if they have the tact of a battering ram. We want you to succeed, and putting a CBB in your tank would lead to big problems. The CBB would die, it would pick at all the corals you have in there, and you'd be down $100 after about two weeks. If you want a lone show fish in a 15 gallon, a single humbug damselfish or some sort of dottyback would be nice. If not, stick to the long-tested formula of "two clownfish and something else". Good luck!

*edit* Looking back at some of your past threads, it seems like you have at least 2 fish in there already. Leave the CBB out and be happy with the fish you already have. Seems like you're already fully stocked. Nice tank, BTW.

 

[lilpew]

Ive seen some stocked


Re read the question. When did say it was 8in. And when you do yoir research thats 8in in wild not in tank should only expect half of that growth in captivity. And i was asking about growing one out. So 2-3 cbb in a 15 by himself seems do able

2-3 CBB in a 15 gallon is ridiculous. There is no way you can be serious.

 

[silent1mezzo]

 

[I never finish anythi]

Ive seen some stocked


Re read the question. When did say it was 8in. And when you do yoir research thats 8in in wild not in tank should only expect half of that growth in captivity. And i was asking about growing one out. So 2-3 cbb in a 15 by himself seems do able

Then don't ask advice if you are going to do it anyway. Seems like you have set you're mind on it so just do it . It's cruel tho ..

 

[Cichlid Dad]

2-3 CBB in a 15 gallon is ridiculous. There is no way you can be serious.

He is, but he means 2-3 inch cbb. And he thinks it will stay small imo. A grown out tank would be a 40 breeder not a 15

 

[ClownSchool]

I bet I could make you fit into a 50 gallon drum, but that doesn’t make it humane. In fact, it’s a torture technique meant to break someone within minutes or hours.
The tanks in live-fish restaurants aren’t a habitat, they’re holding cells while awaiting execution.
The responses you’re getting here should be taken as a learning experience to gauge where you’re at in your development for empathy toward all living things. When dealing with living things, your goal is not to push the envelope, but err on the side of caution.
Good luck!

 

[AydenLincoln]

i have seen plenty of large fish in small tanks....fish upto and larger the 18". I will admit they are at live seafood restaurants

This comment wins! :rolling-on-the-floor-laughing:

 

[MnFish1]

Ive seen some stocked


Re read the question. When did say it was 8in. And when you do yoir research thats 8in in wild not in tank should only expect half of that growth in captivity. And i was asking about growing one out. So 2-3 cbb in a 15 by himself seems do able

There are a couple things - I agree with you it's never black and white. That said, 1. These fish are not 'easy' - and they are more difficult when little (IMHO). 2. A little fish would be ok in a small (15 gallon tank) - BUT, a lot of the growth in fish comes in the first year so - assuming you had proper filtration, feeding, parameters, the fish (especially 3 of them) will rapidly outgrow the tank. 3. Though the fish can grow to 8 inches - I agree with you I've never seen it that big ever.

IF you decide to try this I would use 1 fish, very small. With plans to re-home it within a year. I would make sure the fish is eating well at the store for a while before bringing it home. Use a proper quarantine procedure.

So I don't get jumped on - IMHO, this is not a good idea, though I thought I would give you some ideas if indeed you try it.

 

[Rugops]

You seem to have been a cichlid person in the past and have asked a similar question on keeping lots of livestock in a smaller tank.

I think you may be trying to embed the cichlid style of keeping - with saltwater fish. Based on your history, you still seem relatively new at this I don't think you have any idea of what you are trying to do. Just do your wallet a favor and just keep what you have in your tank already.

 

[alain Bouchard]

a baby dolphin would fit in my tank, but I dont put one in it...

 

[Tonycass12]

Ive seen some stocked


Re read the question. When did say it was 8in. And when you do yoir research thats 8in in wild not in tank should only expect half of that growth in captivity. And i was asking about growing one out. So 2-3 cbb in a 15 by himself seems do able

It's not. I have one in a 120gal that's only 3" he roams the whole tank and is a fast fish. They will die in a 15gallon or jump out of it. Assuming a fish will only reach half of its full grown size in an aquarium is another ridiculous statement. Advice is being given and you still seam determined to ignore it. This is like asking to buy a dog but it would have to spend the next year in a 3'x3' kennel.... absolutly not ok. Get a clownfish.

 

[Cichlid Dad]

Possible for a CBB to be in a 15 gallon. He would be the only fish in the tank with coral. Could I buy one super small and grow him out in it? How fast is there growth rate

Look, most people say it temporary, it won't be, some people say it s just a fish, it's not, some people ask for advice only looking for affirmation for a discussion already made, but here at reef to reef you won't get that. It is a silly question and abuse to a living creature that in the best environment stands little chance of making it in the first place, let alone trying to shoe horn a fish into a tank that only small clowns belong

 

[silent1mezzo]

Relatively new to R2R but can we just lock this thread? It's animal abuse pure and simple.

 

[ClownSchool]

Look, most people say it temporary, it won't be, some people say it s just a fish, it's not, some people ask for advice only looking for affirmation for a discussion already made, but here at reef to reef you won't get that. It is a silly question and abuse to a living creature that in the best environment stands little chance of making it in the first place, let alone trying to shoe horn a fish into a tank that only small clowns belong

The reality is, even the clownfish will need to be re-homed within a year.
I had a bonded pair of Clarkiis in a biocube 16 that needed to be re-homed within 6 months to a 55 gallon due to aggression. Once moved, their territorial behavior persisted to the whole tank as the female quickly grew to fill the entire palm of my hand within a year.
If OP doesn’t have the knowledge to understand what the future holds for pets already owned, assuming OP will be making the right choices regarding the CBB doesn’t look promising.

 

[etcee]

no

 

[Eva Rose]

ya did some research was wondering if anyone else tried their luck

Looking up examples of irresponsible hobbyists that experiment just to do what they want is NOT RESEARCH.

RESEARCH is looking up valid responsible sources. Scientifically based sources. Sources that look to meet needs for a species to thrive.
While there is some variability among credible sources, the range is usually stated 75 to 125 gallons.

This fish can be hard to get eating. Sometimes established CBBs go on hunger strikes. A 15 gal doesn't provide enough territory to allow its natural grazing behavior.

In the wild juvenile fish do not just graze or swim in a tiny footprint the size of a nano tank.

Instead examine why you are asking if this is "okay".

Whether you are new in the hobby or have been in it 10 years, instead stop & ask yourself if you want to provide livestock responsible care. To be direct when people ask questions like this, clearly they do not.

 

[Andreas' Reef]

No, I wouldn't. But may I suggest some alternatives? If its the only fish, you have an array of different damselfish to pick from, all having lots of personality and colour . Also, you could do a possum wrasse if you're looking for those stripes.

 

[Rugops]

@BaileyAR, what did you end up doing?