In order to measure the amount of copper when using Coppesafe, may you use either the Hanna LR (HI747) or the Hanna HR (HI702)? Of course, with the first one you should dilute the sample as the upper measuring limit is 999 ppb.
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If I were in your situation, I would quarantine. It's just too easy to do, and I like peace of mind it brings.I dont have the details unfortunately. I only know the tank is 3 years old. I'm guessing the previous owner never quarantined before adding fish.
The cycled media in the sump appears to be the type that absorbs copper, so you should not use it in the QT.Thanks for the explanation! I am leaning towards Chelated Copper treatment for doing the quarantine. I wanted to do CP but it's hard to get a hold of. Here's what I was planning to do:
1. Use my 16 gallon as QT using already cycled media from this adopted tank/sump. Start Copper treatment using Copper Power.
2. Scrub the adopted DT and sump and let it dry completely.
3. Since I am using copper, would I be able to use the media I would be using in the QT back in the DT eventually?
4. Additionally, I was thinking of getting a dwarf lionfish and snowflake eel. But they cannot be treated with copper. How would I be able to add them to the DT? Would I have to TTM for them?
Lionfish are fine with Coppersafe. The eel might go off its feed during copper, but if it is fed well beforehand, that won’t be an issue. Both of these species can be a handful with TTM…..The cycled media in the sump appears to be the type that absorbs copper, so you should not use it in the QT.
If you have any foam or floss as filter media in your sump, you could use that in your QT. You could also place a foam filter in your DT and allow it to operate for several weeks before moving it to your QT and breaking down the DT. That would give the filter ample time to become populated with the bacteria necessary to process ammonia in your QT.
I have no experience with lionfish or eels so i can't give you any advice there.
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Lionfish are fine with Coppersafe. The eel might go off its feed during copper, but if it is fed well beforehand, that won’t be an issue. Both of these species can be a handful with TTM…..
Jay
Other than not being safe for coral or inverts, what's the risk of copper being absorbed by the media?The cycled media in the sump appears to be the type that absorbs copper, so you should not use it in the QT.
If you have any foam or floss as filter media in your sump, you could use that in your QT. You could also place a foam filter in your DT and allow it to operate for several weeks before moving it to your QT and breaking down the DT. That would give the filter ample time to become populated with the bacteria necessary to process ammonia in your QT.
I have no experience with lionfish or eels so i can't give you any advice there.
I can't say, I mostly use Copper Safe. People report that Copper Power is even safer than Coppersafe, but IDK. For either one, you need to have a good test kit and calculate your tank volume carefully. Cupramine and Copper sulfate/citric acid are the two meds that cause reactions in more species.Would you say the same for Copper Power?
I assumed you might want coral or inverts in your display tank eventually. If the media absorbs copper while in the QT and you move it to the DT, it will likely leach some of the copper into the clean water.Other than not being safe for coral or inverts, what's the risk of copper being absorbed by the media?
I'm aiming to keep triggers, puffers and lionfish so I don't think I would be able to keep coralsI assumed you might want coral or inverts in your display tank eventually. If the media absorbs copper while in the QT and you move it to the DT, it will likely leach some of the copper into the clean water.
That product is formalin and methylene blue. Formalin is very tricky to use on newly shipped fish as it consumes oxygen, right at a point where the fish may have been oxygen deficient. Methylene blue helps with oxygen transport, but it is used here as a second dip, right?I'm also curious, some recommend safety stop dip before putting into the quarantine tank for copper treatment. Is this necessary and what are the pros and cons?
If the tank has the capacity, quarantine all together makes sense from a cost/effort point of view. However, if you have already begun a quarantine period and then add new fish, you should reset the clock over to day one.Thanks Jay. I'm also thinking of getting some additional stock with this existing stock of fish that I'm adopting. Should I get the additional stock later or QT together with the adopted stock?