Unfortunately, IF your fish does has ich it doesn‘t just go away... it falls off and multiples in sand and rock. It comes back a lot worse about 7-10 days later.In other fishy news the “ich” problem is fading away, hopefully to never return. This is the last time I buy from that particular Petco.
Why’d I get that darn gramma?!
I know which is exactly why I’m still worried. I suppose all I can do is monitor what happens. It’s weird, it’s all gone without a trace, when usually, at least in my experience, the cysts go away with some inflammation left behind. Likewise, none of my fish actually reacted with scratching, flashing, or gasping like they normally would.Unfortunately, IF your fish does has ich it doesn‘t just go away... it falls off and multiples in sand and rock. It comes back a lot worse about 7-10 days later.
I do have a 10 gal tank but right now it’s more a means of the other supplies that I don’t have. I’ll try my best though. Though I have yet to see ich related symptoms other than the white dot, I don’t think I dodged a bullet either. I am constantly keeping my eyes on the fish’s behavior, appearance, etc. and will be prepared to jump to any means necessary to eradicate this. Ich is an ugly thing, and I can only pray that it won’t rear its face again. But, like I’ve been told, if it’s ich, it will.I have this very tank as well, good luck!
Read through this whole thread and I see you frequent Petco a lot. In case you didn't know they have a $1/gallon sale on their fish tanks all the time. Pick up a 10 gallon Aqueon for $10 and dedicate it to be your hospital/quarantine tank. Heck, that tank is only $15 normally so I'd get it either way. (I got a 10 gallon for fish QT and a 5.5 gallon for inverts QT. Total cost was $30 for the two tanks.)
Of course you will also need to add to that: HOB filter, heater, ammonia badge, thermometer, PVC pipes for hiding and possibly a powerhead or sponge filter depending on what you're treating and what fish you have in there.
All told my fish quarantine hardware consists of—
If you budget ~$100 that should get you completely set up for when your fish get sick.
- 10 gallon tank (from Petco), $10-$15
- glass lid (for this tank, from Petco), $10-$15
- heater, $15-$20
- HOB filter, $20-40
- thermostat, $7
- ammonia badge, $3
- PVC pipe from Home Depot, $1-$3
- I'm assuming you already have the salt to spin up this tank
Dump in some Bio-Spira ($15) for instant life support and you're ready to go.
As for meds... well since you've already bought the fish and introduced them to your DT I'd say your approach is more "reactive" than "proactive", meaning as you identify a disease you'll be going out to your LFS or Petco to pick up the meds to treat it. But it wouldn't hurt to start stocking up on the most common meds now for this inevitability. Copper, metro, Prazi, General Cure, Focus, and on and on. Pick one up here and there to spread the costs out over time.
But please, please, please do not think you have dodged a bullet. Even if you have, this scare should be telling you that you need to get ahead of things and be prepared for an outbreak. You mentioned you had nowhere to go with your gramma when you saw signs of ich. Where are your fish going to go when this happens again? You will have to leave your DT fallow for 11 weeks. Don't be handcuffed again. When you see signs of this recurring, and it sounds like you will, have that hospital tank spun up and ready to go. Transfer all fish to it (because you have to assume if one has it they all have it) and start meds right away.
And yes, QT all new inverts and coral in a similar manner in a separate QT tank from the fish. (The ones you already have in there have done any damage they're gonna do). Corals can have pests on them that can wipe out your existing DT corals. And both inverts and corals can carry fish parasites which, once introduced to your DT, can wipe out your fish. It's very possible your next outbreak will come from throwing in a "harmless" hermit crab or coral frag from Petco.
How to Setup a Quarantine Tank The following are the bare essentials: Aquarium (10-30 gallons seems to work for most people. Bigger QT lets you house more fish and gives you more wiggle room when it comes to ammonia. Smaller QT is cheaper, easier to maintain and can be setup/broke down...www.reef2reef.comI am frequently asked what my process is for QT, so I am just creating a thread that I can link users to for a reference. On arrival day, I match salinity in QT to arriving fish or make sure it's a touch lower (Usually 1.018). Acclimate (float for 30-45min in bag and release) fish directly...www.reef2reef.comCoral/Invert Quarantine Time Frames Preface: The purpose of this article is to outline time periods required to properly quarantine (QT) marine corals & invertebrates. While unable to host ectoparasites the way fish do, corals/inverts are still able to “carry” fish diseases in one of two ways...www.reef2reef.comIntroduction: This article covers the equipment that I utilize in my current quarantine tank. I address commonly asked questions for newly cycled and existing QT setups. In addition, I touch upon the trusted medications that I keep on hand...www.reef2reef.comWhen we need to set up a Hospital Tank for a sick fish we often don't have much warning. The priority is getting the tank set up and ready for fish ASAP. We don't have time to properly cycle the tank. Since we will likely be dosing medicines into the tank, we can't use live rock. One of the most...www.reef2reef.comHow to Acclimate The purpose of this article is to discuss proper acclimation procedures for saltwater fish, corals and invertebrates. Improper acclimation is probably one of the leading reasons why livestock suddenly die after being introduced into an aquarium. This inevitable death can take...www.reef2reef.comThese are the bare essentials I recommend for quarantining: Anti-parasitic: Copper Power with a Hanna High Range Copper Colorimeter (HI702) for testing. Treats Ich & velvet. Anti-parasitic: Metronidazole (e.g. Seachem Metroplex); treats brook & uronema. Dewormer: Prazipro or API General Cure...www.reef2reef.com@HotRocks your math and calculations are dead on accurate! I used them last week with copper power in my qt and got the exact same numbers from the Hanna tester as the calculations you posted. Makes me feel more comfortable too about the Hanna readings when there is some math behind it to double...www.reef2reef.com
Could be totally wrong but this looks like a devils hand (Lobophytom) clowns don't usually host these would have a better luck with a long polyp toadstool.All opened up!!
Don’t worry, the Petco I’m getting coral at is better than some LFS I’ve been to, very amazing. The royal gramma with the potential ich is from probably my least favorite Petco, and was more an impulse buy.Could be totally wrong but this looks like a devils hand (Lobophytom) clowns don't usually host these would have a better luck with a long polyp toadstool.
Also on my experience petco is good for nothing except brand new equipment. Probably a giant lack of care for fish and coral. I'd steer clear.