HIGH END Tenuis Hoarder

merereef · Oct 17, 2020

shane backer said:
utube is SBB Corals. If you see any of the videos in this thread it will take you to our youtube

Subscribed... love ur tank and corals man keep up the fantastic work and share as much knowledge as you can.

zip70 · Oct 18, 2020

shane backer said:
I dose no3 using neonitro and neophose.

Can you verify this? You dose these Neonitro and NeoPhos to increase NO3 and PO4 or to decrease them?
Thanks Shane.

SBB Corals · Oct 19, 2020

zip70 said:
Can you verify this? You dose these Neonitro and NeoPhos to increase NO3 and PO4 or to decrease them?
Thanks Shane.

I dose them to increase the no3 and po4.. although i have to report that my po4 has been on the higher side lately so i have not had to dose po4.. so i only dose these add needed..

Anthrax15 · Oct 19, 2020

shane backer said:
I dose them to increase the no3 and po4.. although i have to report that my po4 has been on the higher side lately so i have not had to dose po4.. so i only dose these add needed..

I apologize if you wrote it before but I was curious what you keep your NO3 and PO4 at?

808reef · Oct 19, 2020

shane backer said:
Hi guys after 3 years I feel like this tank is decent enough and need to start a new tank... I set up a new 120 Gallon Display tank with some bonsai tree Rock work and plan to select some frags from the main display for this new tenuis grow out. its going to be a long journey replicating the main system parameters and growing the selected frags out. I am also excited to see how the radian g5s compare to the g4s. In the current tank they are grown using the g4s and the new tank will be the g5s.

Below is the new 120 Gallon Display tank with the Bonsai Tree branches. this is the tank that will get the new frah cutting. Will be fun to see them grow and crust onto the branches

808reef · Oct 19, 2020

shane backer said:
Hi guys after 3 years I feel like this tank is decent enough and need to start a new tank... I set up a new 120 Gallon Display tank with some bonsai tree Rock work and plan to select some frags from the main display for this new tenuis grow out. its going to be a long journey replicating the main system parameters and growing the selected frags out. I am also excited to see how the radian g5s compare to the g4s. In the current tank they are grown using the g4s and the new tank will be the g5s.

Below is the new 120 Gallon Display tank with the Bonsai Tree branches. this is the tank that will get the new frah cutting. Will be fun to see them grow and crust onto the branches

The tennis wizard. So glad to know you brother. Absolutely stunning as usual!!

SBB Corals · Oct 19, 2020

Anthrax15 said:
I apologize if you wrote it before but I was curious what you keep your NO3 and PO4 at?

my target now is between 16 and 32 and my target po4 is .15PPM

TexasTodd · Oct 19, 2020

Nice thread. What skimmer and algae reactor are you going with for the new tank. What's on the others?
I've narrowed down a recent issue to highly related to an old RO/DI unit with possibly a faulty TDS meter and was already leaning towards what you do. Also noticed on my new unit that I'm 9 or 10 after RO and started to hit 1 on the next reading location after just about 400 gallons made....matching up with what you've seen.

fishfong · Oct 20, 2020

shane backer said:
A lot of people have been asking how I keep my no3 and po4 so low naturally with only using a skimmer and algae scrubber. I don’t run any GFO or Carbon.

See video and my methods below:

In the video you can see that all the food is suspended in a bag that the fish pick on for hours a day. No food gets wasted or blown all around the tank. There is no detritus going into a corner like a raw piece of food that then decomposes. The food I am using is a Gummy Consistency from American Reef HPD. I believe this method of feeding virtually brings the no3 and po4 down to 0.. I then control po4 and no3 by dosing them up with additives.

I try and keep my no3 between 16 and 32 and my po4 .08-.15

Feeding this way also keeps the fish super fat so they poop more on the corals and also keeps the fish less aggressive since they are always fed. I also use reef chili in the mix so as the fish pick on the food the reef chili comes off and feeds the corals. The food never disintegrates in the bag so the fish usually take about 3 hours to finish it. so, the reef gets fed for 3 hours a day. most people just throw in a bunch of food and a lot of it gets wasted and just dies off in your system create a nutrient spike.

Hopefully this help!

Do you feed your Tenuis any popular coral foods on the market besides fishes eating from the bag of American Marine HPD pooping on your corals?

merereef · Oct 21, 2020

I see you run miracle mud... whats your thoughts on it? Im thinking of running it on my new system... what do you notice benefits. And what lighting schedule do you run? How do you run them blues, whites etc

SBB Corals · Oct 21, 2020

TexasTodd said:
Nice thread. What skimmer and algae reactor are you going with for the new tank. What's on the others?
I've narrowed down a recent issue to highly related to an old RO/DI unit with possibly a faulty TDS meter and was already leaning towards what you do. Also noticed on my new unit that I'm 9 or 10 after RO and started to hit 1 on the next reading location after just about 400 gallons made....matching up with what you've seen.

For the old tank i use the CLear water scrubber for algae scrubber and Deltec for skimmer. I will use the same setup for the new tank.... yes i think alot of TDS meters are faulty and something is getting through that we cannot detect.. i am very strict the moment i see 1 in between the DI resenns i change everything LOL...

Msanchez_4342 · Oct 21, 2020

Hey, can you please share your settings to your radions gen 5?

SBB Corals · Oct 22, 2020

fishfong said:
Do you feed your Tenuis any popular coral foods on the market besides fishes eating from the bag of American Marine HPD pooping on your corals?

I feed them Reef CHIlli. i put this into the american reef HPD MIX. i also feed a lot of phytoplankton. I get this from Algae barne. I think the Phyto makes a huge difference with PE and color and overall health

BeeGriff · Oct 22, 2020

shane backer said:
I feed them Reef CHIlli. i put this into the american reef HPD MIX. i also feed a lot of phytoplankton. I get this from Algae barne. I think the Phyto makes a huge difference with PE and color and overall health

How do you dose the phytoplankton? Just pour in with feeding or is it dosed throughout the day?

merereef · Oct 22, 2020

Shane answer me man lolll above question

fishfong · Oct 23, 2020

shane backer said:
I feed them Reef CHIlli. i put this into the american reef HPD MIX. i also feed a lot of phytoplankton. I get this from Algae barne. I think the Phyto makes a huge difference with PE and color and overall health

Thank you so much Shane for sharing your information regarding feeding lots of Algae Barne phytoplankton to all your beautiful tenuis and making a huge difference for PE and color. I am clicking on Algae Barne site now.

fishfong · Oct 23, 2020

fishfong said:
Thank you so much Shane for sharing your information regarding feeding lots of Algae Barne phytoplankton to all your beautiful tenuis and making a huge difference for PE and color. I am clicking on Algae Barne site now.

Are you feeding your Tenuis Algae Barn Ocean Magic live phytoplankton?

SBB Corals · Oct 24, 2020

merereef said:
I see you run miracle mud... whats your thoughts on it? Im thinking of running it on my new system... what do you notice benefits. And what lighting schedule do you run? How do you run them blues, whites etc

Hello yes i use the MUD. its just something i always used from the beginning so i am not sure the affect of the corals TBO.. now that i use it and the corals look good i don't want to change something and not use it. i use the Radion ab plus schedule with no deviations it is not an all blue schedule the blues are turned up 100% and then white is at 20%