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Started seachem paraguard 10 days ago at first sign of flashing and scratching and it definitely has gotten worse but I think that's due to the excysting and been feeding pellet and mysis brine mix soaked in garlic was going to add some metroplex to the food also. Any thoughts on this treatmentIt looks like ich... regardless you should start hypo salinity, or copper treatments and regardless of method soak the food in selcon or a vitamin boost of some sort and feed that.
Thank youDefinitely looks like Ich. There are really 3 ways to effectively eliminate it. You either need to treat with copper, CP (chloroquine phosphate), or use TTM (Tank Transfer Method). Whichever course you take you need to use it on every fish that has shared water with these two.
You can read up on all 3 methods using links found here.
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/treatment-options-index.247573/
Couple nights ago they were covered really bad so I did a fresh water dip on them I didn't notice anything come off because the container I used was clear but the spots still remained on the fish, however the next day they looked a lot better no as many spots. I appreciate all you guys taken time to help thank you. I would like to ask one more question and that is I started seachem paraguard at the 1 st sign of flashing/scratching (no visible spots) it's been 11 days treating I was planning on seeing the treatment time through (28 days seachem advised) and if that don't work switch to copper. I'm also going to add some metroplex to there food (waiting for it to arrive ) gimmie your thoughts on this if you don't mind!Some of those spots look irregular shaped, so I'm wondering if it could actually be flukes. A FW dip would confirm: https://www.reef2reef.com/ams/video-how-to-do-a-freshwater-dip.214/
If flukes come off during the FW dip, treat with Prazipro. If no flukes show, treat for ich as advised by @Brew12.
So Prazipro can be used at the same time you have copper in the water? If so will it require a different dose? And finally were angles are sensitive to copper would you still recommend use both at the same time?@jeff williams Paraguard is at best a formalin replacement; but even formalin won't completely eradicate a ciliated protozoan.
I would forget the Paraguard and move on to copper. You can mix Prazipro w/copper to address the possibility of flukes.
So Prazipro can be used at the same time you have copper in the water? If so will it require a different dose? And finally were angles are sensitive to copper would you still recommend use both at the same time?
3 weeks of copper which I had to stop treatment because my biological filter stopped and I was doing 50% water changes every day I went to ttm today is the 4 transfer and the fish haven't been scratching and so forth. I think I finally (hopefully) got ick kicked.
Ps. Just for piece of mind I'm gonna do 1 more transfer lol
I was hoping 14 days in copper would have done it but it didn't they started scratching and flashing about 3 days later. They were in copper 3 weeks but only at thereputic levels the last 14 days I brought cu levels up slow because of the angel fishI'm glad things are finally working out for you!
Just so you know you would have been fine not doing ttm after pulling them out of copper after 3 weeks. 14 days in copper followed by transfer to a sterilized QT works very well. That said, as long as the transfers aren't causing stress issues with your fish there is nothing wrong with doing them as an added precaution.
TTM sounds like the right choice then. Only the time at the therapeutic level counts. The 14 days should have been enough but not worth risking if you saw additional symptoms.I was hoping 14 days in copper would have done it but it didn't they started scratching and flashing about 3 days later. They were in copper 3 weeks but only at thereputic levels the last 14 days I brought cu levels up slow because of the angel fish
I hope I went in with a qt plan thought I had it all figured out and learned the only thing I could count on was you guysI'm glad you are almost there! The next QT is likely to be much easier for you since you've learned a lot with this first one.
Started seachem paraguard 10 days ago at first sign of flashing and scratching and it definitely has gotten worse but I think that's due to the excysting and been feeding pellet and mysis brine mix soaked in garlic was going to add some metroplex to the food also. Any thoughts on this treatment
Ya I ran a full 30 days with paraguard and all it done was control it it did not cure it. Paraguard cannot run with copper!!! It has to run by itself.I lost too many fish / $$$ using paraguard. It didn't faze velvet. I'll never use it again. I would stop the Paraguard and start with copper. I have had good luck with Seachem Cupramine. I don't know if you can mix paraguard and copper. I'm sure someone on this thread with way more knowledge than me on the subject can answer that. If you can't mix them, do a large water change and run some carbon to get it out. Then start copper.