IS THIS MARINE Velvet?? Help

[alindell]

This purple tang just went through a fresh water dip for 5 minutes. Im thinking this is marine velvet? What can I do to save him.

 

[alindell]

He's in a small qt with some removable corals. There are a few other fish that seem unaffected. Mandarin leopard wrasse clowns fire fish. What are my options here

 

[Fish Fan]

Sorry to see your Tang like this. Maybe the R2R #fishmedic crew can take a look here.

Good luck!

 

[Jay Hemdal]

He's in a small qt with some removable corals. There are a few other fish that seem unaffected. Mandarin leopard wrasse clowns fire fish. What are my options here

That’s an advanced case of marine ich. With no invertebrates in the tank, you should dose with Coppersafe or copper power dosed at 2.25 ppm ASAP. You need an accurate test kit. The Hanna HR copper meter is best. You should also ensure the tank is well aerated and that the ammonia level is kept below 0.5 ppm.

 

[alindell]

Okay I just went into a deep dive. Bought for formalin, bought copper power bought Hannah Cooper

 

[alindell]

That’s an advanced case of marine ich. With no invertebrates in the tank, you should dose with Coppersafe or copper power dosed at 2.25 ppm ASAP. You need an accurate test kit. The Hanna HR copper meter is best. You should also ensure the tank is well aerated and that the ammonia level is kept below 0.5 ppm.

How do you know it's ich? It's small and covered him like a dust almost. I would think that's velvet

 

[Jay Hemdal]

How do you know it's ich? It's small and covered him like a dust almost. I would think that's velvet

The spots are ich. It could also have velvet in the gills, but either way though, copper power at 2.25 ppm will handle both diseases if you get to a full dose ASAP. Skip the formalin, it can react with copper, it lowers the dissolved oxygen level in the water and is very toxic to people when used in a home (cancer causing agent).

Copper is not an instant cure, it can take up to three days to work, and this fish is pretty sick already, so time will tell.

Also, as I mentioned before: You must ensure the tank is well aerated and that the ammonia level is kept below 0.5 ppm.

Jay

 

[alindell]

The spots are ich. It could also have velvet in the gills, but either way though, copper power at 2.25 ppm will handle both diseases if you get to a full dose ASAP. Skip the formalin, it can react with copper, it lowers the dissolved oxygen level in the water and is very toxic to people when used in a home (cancer causing agent).

Copper is not an instant cure, it can take up to three days to work, and this fish is pretty sick already, so time will tell.

Also, as I mentioned before: You must ensure the tank is well aerated and that the ammonia level is kept below 0.5 ppm.

Jay

I was gonna do a formalin bath. Not dose it. Useca bubbler and just do it for 40 minutes

 

[alindell]

The spots are ich. It could also have velvet in the gills, but either way though, copper power at 2.25 ppm will handle both diseases if you get to a full dose ASAP. Skip the formalin, it can react with copper, it lowers the dissolved oxygen level in the water and is very toxic to people when used in a home (cancer causing agent).

Copper is not an instant cure, it can take up to three days to work, and this fish is pretty sick already, so time will tell.

Also, as I mentioned before: You must ensure the tank is well aerated and that the ammonia level is kept below 0.5 ppm.

Jay

Will the copper hurt my mandarin and leopard wrasse. Even though they don't have signs of ich or velvet I should still medicate them too right?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Yes, they both can get ich and velvet. Trouble is, neither species enjoy being held in bare quarantine tanks.

 

[alindell]

Yes, they both can get ich and velvet. Trouble is, neither species enjoy being held in bare quarantine tanks.

I removed the tang only and separated him. He's going through copper now. The other fish seem perfectly fine so I'll just observe. I guess if I don't see any signs of ich for 6 weeks they should be fine right? If I do I'll have to seperate those too but I figure why do that if maybe they have no ich. How does this plan sound?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I removed the tang only and separated him. He's going through copper now. The other fish seem perfectly fine so I'll just observe. I guess if I don't see any signs of ich for 6 weeks they should be fine right? If I do I'll have to seperate those too but I figure why do that if maybe they have no ich. How does this plan sound?

The other fish have been exposed to the parasite. Even if they don't show acute symptom (yet) they could harbor a chronic infection if they are not also treated. The risk is that down the road, if there is something that stresses the fish out, the parasite can become acute again. Doing what you propose is called "ich management". That isn't a preferred situation, but as the name implies, the risk can be managed. Here is a post I made about that:

"Ich Management"

Because this topic continues to come up, I wanted to create a sticky thread so that it is more easily referenced. Please understand that I am NOT presenting this as an optimum method for controlling marine ich, just putting it out there for people who want to try it. Also, do not pick and...

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