When will we be able to start placing new orders for an ION D?shipment to US leaves in 10 days from Germany
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When will we be able to start placing new orders for an ION D?shipment to US leaves in 10 days from Germany
After we're caught up with the existing pre-orders.When will we be able to start placing new orders for an ION D?
The whole delay excuse thing has really been over used. The impact this iond must be having on there overall sales must be massive. I fear for them as a company in the long term because they actually make good controllers and this thing is just killing their reputation and cash flow.Vinny just advised me that the shipment to the US was delayed and will be shipping 1 week from today.
Thank you. Are the new sensors to have a 90 day warranty? Just wanted to confirm as I may have misread what was written. You say ‘minimum’ but what will the official warranty duration be?About the costs per IOND measurement:
1000mL reference cost $31, you need around 15mL per measurement each fluid, these are around 65 measurements.
-> around 50 Cent, multiplied by 2 because you need 2 references
-> $1 per measurement
plus the sensor for $80, min. guaranteed lifetime are 90 days
-> worst case scenario is below $2 for a measurement
We understand that there might be cheaper options to measure 5 parameters at once for $2, if someone does not appreciate automatic measurements, the convenience and the possibility to automatically control these water parameters by automatic dosings based on the last measurements then the IOND is maybe not the right solution.
90 days.Thank you. Are the new sensors to have a 90 day warranty? Just wanted to confirm as I may have misread what was written. You say ‘minimum’ but what will the official warranty duration be?
About the costs per IOND measurement:
1000mL reference cost $31, you need around 15mL per measurement each fluid, these are around 65 measurements.
-> around 50 Cent, multiplied by 2 because you need 2 references
-> $1 per measurement
plus the sensor for $80, min. guaranteed lifetime are 90 days
-> worst case scenario is below $2 for a measurement
We understand that there might be cheaper options to measure 5 parameters at once for $2, if someone does not appreciate automatic measurements, the convenience and the possibility to automatically control these water parameters by automatic dosings based on the last measurements then the IOND is maybe not the right solution.
90 days is the warranty (minimum life) right? Could/should last longer? which drives the cost/test down (say a probe last a year for example)?365 days per year / 90 day probe life expectancy = 4 probes per year (estimated). 4 x 80 US (estimate) = 320 US before tax or markup (MAP). Again estimates. This is probe alone not including reference fluid. Question would be how long does the probe last based on test(s) per day.
Not apples to apples because different test and measurements but another machine testing 3 things using brand specific reagents is 94 US pre tax 6 month kit or 188 per year using default 4, 2, 2 testing. Can use reversed engineered reagents for lower cost.
Ignoring the noise on what is best and personal bias the only thing I'd wonder is probe longevity and consistency with similar testing per day. Trends require data and data requires testing. If the probe lasts 90 days with multiple tests per day there shouldn't be much concern and 320 bucks is a small price to pay for trending.
Good luck Mr. Gross - sounds like you all worked very hard. Hopefully rewards follow.
Honestly not trying to be negative or play devils advocate here but want to add my perspective.About the costs per IOND measurement:
1000mL reference cost $31, you need around 15mL per measurement each fluid, these are around 65 measurements.
-> around 50 Cent, multiplied by 2 because you need 2 references
-> $1 per measurement
plus the sensor for $80, min. guaranteed lifetime are 90 days
-> worst case scenario is below $2 for a measurement
We understand that there might be cheaper options to measure 5 parameters at once for $2, if someone does not appreciate automatic measurements, the convenience and the possibility to automatically control these water parameters by automatic dosings based on the last measurements then the IOND is maybe not the right solution.
This is a change from the original warranty correct? Wasn’t it 6 months (180 days) limited warranty? Will the 90 day still be a limited warranty?90 days.
About the costs per IOND measurement:
1000mL reference cost $31, you need around 15mL per measurement each fluid, these are around 65 measurements.
-> around 50 Cent, multiplied by 2 because you need 2 references
-> $1 per measurement
plus the sensor for $80, min. guaranteed lifetime are 90 days
-> worst case scenario is below $2 for a measurement
We understand that there might be cheaper options to measure 5 parameters at once for $2, if someone does not appreciate automatic measurements, the convenience and the possibility to automatically control these water parameters by automatic dosings based on the last measurements then the IOND is maybe not the right solution.
I found this older post (Nov ‘21) from an unofficial (but GHL guru, Gaël) that talks about water quality over # tests determining sensor life. This would have been the original sensors and maybe the new designs are different.I've not seen any clarity around the probe guarantee vs number of tests per day or week. Does the number of tests have a direct correlation to the sensor life?
Pretty important.
I think I have decided to try the Reefbot Lab, simply based on initial investment and ongoing consumables cost.
The only reluctance is that it is a disparate application outside of the GHL ecosystem. That said, The GHL charting and overall speed of the dashboard are an ongoing sore spot for me as much as I do like the hardware and general programing interface.
The goal is to leverage the GHL API (hopefully this is actually released soon) along with pulling data from ReefBot to build my own dashboard.
I have not used Grafana - but have several other platforms (tableau, GDS, etc.) and JS front ends for dashboards. No experience with telegraf. I was likely just going to write my own data service, but will look into it too.If you haven't check out Grafana for the presentation layer and telegraf to collect the data. This is what I use with my Neptune Apex. Other options out there of course.