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I’m looking to get into the hobby and find this discussion helpful. I’m also thinking of going with IM. Their stands seem to be a step up from MDF, which I’m not a big fan of.

They also have sale now. Trying to decide between the Fusion Pro 30 and 40.
My understanding is the APS stands are aluminum framed.
 

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Here’s the bottom line: figure out what dimensions and weights (if we’re not talking about a basement) you have to work with and then determine an initial budget.

If you go with a turn-key system like a Cade, Red Sea or Waterbox, you have your stand, tank, sump and plumbing all taken care of and can focus on components such as pumps, filtration, lighting, automation, etc.

Or you go with a custom tank (with stand), custom sump, plumbing, manifold, etc. - then figure out the components.

I ultimately wanted a Cade but had to settle for the next best option, which was a Red Sea (simply due to availability - nothing more). I’m very happy with my choice, and in the end what I saved from the cost of a Cade paid for my automation (and considering the Cade wasn’t an option, it’s somewhat moot).
 

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Many aquarist want to build a system with a custom sump. And I understand that because with turn key systems you get what you get and you work with that. However, to me one important feature is that the sump is made of glass and not made of plastic. Something to think about as well as the tank itself.
 
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Many aquarist want to build a system with a custom sump. And I understand that because with turn key systems you get what you get and you work with that. However, to me one important feature is that the sump is made of glass and not made of plastic. Something to think about as well as the tank itself.
Why do you say glass? I was going to originally build one out of a 20l or 30, but then started looking at the acrylic sumps.
 

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Why do you say glass? I was going to originally build one out of a 20l or 30, but then started looking at the acrylic sumps.
Personal preference I guess but over time acrylic get very scratched up. Don't get me wrong, sumps get overgrow with all types of thing anyway. Its much easier to modify acrylic and that is a plus in direction. I like glass.
 

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Glass, acrylic - it really doesn’t matter - it’s more personal preference that anything else (acrylic will be lighter). All of the turn-key solutions like Cade, Red Sea and Waterbox will most likely be glass, though.
 

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Yes, that‘s my understanding as well and is one of the reasons I’m leaning towards an IM tank. I’m not a big fan of MDF.
Medium Density Fiberboard is not a good idea especially if its not waterproof. Are the IM aluminum stands outside panels MDF? You defiantly want Marine Spec Plywood!
 
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Check out fiji cube. Build quality is amazing. You do have to buy your pvc pipe separately but which means you can plumb it hoe you want it, it does come with the fittings, bulk heads, and gate valve.
 

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My new build I decided to go IM 150 ext. the dimensions are different than most of the other companies outside of going custom. The stand goes together easily, but there is a tiny bit of movement when you clean the glass ( my only complaint/concern). It’s all slotted aluminum and the doors have a plastic insert. There is plenty of room to utilize control boards( ie Adaptive Reef) if you don’t feel like DIY. Tanks are relatively quiet for the most part, a little trickle here and there. If you go with the INT version, there is a coast to coast overflow on the back wall. Glass is clear also.
I went this route as I like to have an oversized sump for extra water volume and space for equipment.
 

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Check out fiji cube. Build quality is amazing. You do have to buy your pvc pipe separately but which means you can plumb it hoe you want it, it does come with the fittings, bulk heads, and gate valve.
What about the stand? Says plywood.
 

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Same with Red Sea, I’ve seen so many reports of tank fails I lost count. Company blocking and erasing post, emailing people not to go public, just weird overall. Cade is also manufactured in China so I would go with SCA or Glass Cages if your in the US
Agreed! At least once a week I see someone posting an issue with their Redsea tanks.

That’s why I will never take a redsea for free. Yet along buy one.
 

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So 3 pages in and I’m not sure anything useful has been gleamed. First you need to figure out what dimensions and weight you have to work with, and that will determine size. Next is budget, because if a Cade or Red Sea is out of the realm of possibility (don’t forget everything else you need, including components), this discussion about which brand of tank is entirely moot. And you need to make some decisions about wanting a turn-key system, what type of stand or whether you want something custom.
 

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My new build I decided to go IM 150 ext. the dimensions are different than most of the other companies outside of going custom. The stand goes together easily, but there is a tiny bit of movement when you clean the glass ( my only complaint/concern). It’s all slotted aluminum and the doors have a plastic insert. There is plenty of room to utilize control boards( ie Adaptive Reef) if you don’t feel like DIY. Tanks are relatively quiet for the most part, a little trickle here and there. If you go with the INT version, there is a coast to coast overflow on the back wall. Glass is clear also.
I went this route as I like to have an oversized sump for extra water volume and space for equipment.
That is going to be a great build!
 

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