Is this Ich or Velvet?

[dabroli]

My tang came down with this about 10 days ago and it spread to my blue jaw trigger, royal gramma, and both clowns. The gramma has since passed. The fish are clearly distressed but still take food.

 

[KGV]

I think ick, but in a quite advanced stage so you have to be very quick. Ideally move them to a hospital tank and start copper treatment, for example cupramine. Read up on @Humblefish website. Each hour matters now. Alternatively, formalin if you don’t have copper can buy you time.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Velvet. With ich, you can generally count the dots whereas with velvet, it represents the solar system as in the case of your tang. velvet spots on the fish that are much finer than the spots seen in Ich making it harder to catch until in cases too late to treat.
Some behaviors associated with a fish with velvet are :
- Scratching body against hard objects
- Fish is lethargic
- Loss of appetite and weight loss
- Rapid, labored breathing
- Fins clamped against the body
- rapid breathing and mucus around the gills

Fish with velvet will typically stay at the surface of the water, or remain in a position where a steady flow of water is present in the aquarium. As the disease progresses outwards from the gills, the cysts then become visible on the fins and body. Although these cysts may appear as tiny white dots the size of a grain of salt, like the first sign of Saltwater Ich or White Spot Disease, what sets Oodinium apart from other types of ich is that at this point the fish have the appearance of being coated with what looks like a whitish or tan to golden colored, velvet-like film, thus the name Velvet Disease.
Remove fish from main tank and give them a FW dip or bath and then place them into a QT with vigorous aeration provided. Treat the fish in the QT with a copper-based medication. Although many over-the-counter remedies contain the general name as ich or ick treatments, carefully read the box to be sure it is specifically designed to target Oodinium. My choice is coppersafe at 2.25-2.5 therapuetic level at 80 degrees monitored by a reliable test kit (no api brand either)

 

[01xp]

+1 on velvet

 

[dabroli]

Thank you for the quick replies, I have copper coming tomorrow and will break turn my fowlr into a quarantine tank. I’m willing to ruin the rock. I removed all carbon and am just running a wave maker with and aqua clear 110 and a hob skimmer. Hoping it gets here in time :/

 

[vetteguy53081]

Thank you for the quick replies, I have copper coming tomorrow and will break turn my fowlr into a quarantine tank. I’m willing to ruin the rock. I removed all carbon and am just running a wave maker with and aqua clear 110 and a hob skimmer. Hoping it gets here in time :/

Simply remove rock to a tub and you can then salvage it. Rinse in bleach water mix , then cold water rinse and allow to dry. Assure rock has no smell of bleach after rinse.

 

[Captain Quint]

Simply remove rock to a tub and you can then salvage it. Rinse in bleach water mix , then cold water rinse and allow to dry. Assure rock has no smell of bleach after rinse.

+1...sending positive vibes to your wet pets OP.

 

[dabroli]

So an update, the tang did end up dying but everything else is fine and mostly cleared up? Shouldn’t velvet have wiped out everything?

 

[Melanie Fish]

Def velvet. I had velvet once and some fish made it some didn't. Just depends on the fish. Sorry to hear about the tang. Getting velvet is why i started qt ing everything

 

[vetteguy53081]

So an update, the tang did end up dying but everything else is fine and mostly cleared up? Shouldn’t velvet have wiped out everything?

Depending on what stage it was in. Ich will latch onto all available hosts

 

[dabroli]

Depending on what stage it was in. Ich will latch onto all available hosts

Should I still go fallow? Catching the tail spot blenny, trigger, and goby seems next to impossible lol