My Current QT Process

[Wowkuh]

Quick question is it OK to use seachem prime/safe. with ABX?

 

[HotRocks]

Quick question is it OK to use seachem prime/safe. with ABX?

Yes fine to use with antibiotics and CP, just not with copper.

 

[JPK]

figured as much, thanks guys.

 

[NoobReeefer]

2 rounds of GC would be
Dose
wait 48 hours dose again
wait 48 hours do 25% water change

and that's it or do you repeat all that again?

thanks

 

[HotRocks]

2 rounds of GC would be
Dose
wait 48 hours dose again
wait 48 hours do 25% water change

and that's it or do you repeat all that again?

thanks

You should really wait 5-7 days between doses opposed to the 48 hours recommended on the packaging. With a 25% WC in between doses.

 

[NoobReeefer]

You should really wait 5-7 days between doses opposed to the 48 hours recommended on the packaging. With a 25% WC in between doses.

gotcha so then
dose
5 days later 25% water change and dose again
that's 2 rounds? or do i repeat the process again?

 

[HotRocks]

gotcha so then
dose
5 days later 25% water change and dose again
that's 2 rounds? or do i repeat the process again?

Just the two doses total. No need to repeat.

 

[nden]

What a wealth of information to be had in this thread. One question though, for the 14-day post-medication observation, do you keep them in the 2nd sterile qt that the GC treatment is done in, or moved to a 3rd tank?

 

[SteveC]

What a wealth of information to be had in this thread. One question though, for the 14-day post-medication observation, do you keep them in the 2nd sterile qt that the GC treatment is done in, or moved to a 3rd tank?

Out of the Hospital Tank
Into a sterile QT tank for observation and any other treatment
Into DT

 

[SaundersDVM]

Thank you @HotRocks (and @4FordFamily and @Humblefish ) for your information and hard work testing these methods. I will be starting a 125 gallon FOWLR tank soon. I only have space for 1 QT tank, so I cannot transfer to a clean tank after 14 days as your protocol requires. For that reason, I plan to use either @Humblefish 's QT protocol, or the new one that you and @4FordFamily are developing if it is released by the time I start! When you all do release your new protocol, will it be posted on this thread?

 

[4FordFamily]

Thank you @HotRocks (and @4FordFamily and @Humblefish ) for your information and hard work testing these methods. I will be starting a 125 gallon FOWLR tank soon. I only have space for 1 QT tank, so I cannot transfer to a clean tank after 14 days as your protocol requires. For that reason, I plan to use either @Humblefish 's QT protocol, or the new one that you and @4FordFamily are developing if it is released by the time I start! When you all do release your new protocol, will it be posted on this thread?

Yes it will be. The short of it is use metroplex instead of spectrogram to tackle uronema and brook. You can use both spectrogram and metroplex if you feel it necessary, we tested that as well. But we are testing it more our last batch went well until human error. By the way it will also be a 14 day process but if you only have one QT just use ABX for 14 and copper for 30 and you’ll be fine.

It’s also important to know “our” process was almost entirely borrowed from @Humblefish we worked on the new one in conjunction.

 

[SaundersDVM]

@4FordFamily so you guys are starting with metronidazole and only starting copper after 14 days of that? Is that because uronema is more of a concern than amyloodinium from your particular dealer?

 

[SaundersDVM]

@4FordFamily so you guys are starting with metronidazole and only starting copper after 14 days of that? Is that because uronema is more of a concern than amyloodinium from your particular dealer?

 

[puffy127]

I've been combining GC/metro with copper as described by @Humblefish earlier in this thread: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/my-current-qt-process.483371/page-6#post-5525062 (make sure to heavily aerate). I've had three successful batches make it through the medication phase.

 

[nden]

For the transfer into the sterile qt after 14 days, are there any precautions that need to be taken to minimize contamination, if any? Already have the sterile qt way off in another room, so very little chance for aerosol transmission.

For instance having water from the copper treatment tag along during the transfer. Using different nets/tupperware to catch and release, for example. Or something like catching fish from copper qt, placing them into container with sterile qt water, into another container with sterile qt water, like a sort of rinse done after coral dipping. Am I just way overthinking things?

 

[Wowkuh]

You're not over thinking it. Make a new batch of water, temp, salinity, copper matching QT. Catch fish, drop in container. If possible, catch fish with hands (in container) and drop them into new sterile tank, temp salinity matching.

 

[Brew12]

For the transfer into the sterile qt after 14 days, are there any precautions that need to be taken to minimize contamination, if any? Already have the sterile qt way off in another room, so very little chance for aerosol transmission.

For instance having water from the copper treatment tag along during the transfer. Using different nets/tupperware to catch and release, for example. Or something like catching fish from copper qt, placing them into container with sterile qt water, into another container with sterile qt water, like a sort of rinse done after coral dipping. Am I just way overthinking things?

As long as your transfer is done at the correct time there is little risk of carrying something over in the water. I would use completely separate equipment, like nets, for each tank. My preferred method is to catch the fish and put them in a transfer container filled with water from the QT they come out of. I move them to the new QT, dump the fish into a strainer to let most of the water through, then add the fish to the new QT (or DT).

 

[HotRocks]

As long as your transfer is done at the correct time there is little risk of carrying something over in the water. I would use completely separate equipment, like nets, for each tank. My preferred method is to catch the fish and put them in a transfer container filled with water from the QT they come out of. I move them to the new QT, dump the fish into a strainer to let most of the water through, then add the fish to the new QT (or DT).

I do the same, including separate nets etc for each tank.

I do use newly mixed water dosed with copper matching the tank they are coming out of for the transfer bucket.

 

[MrsBugmaster]

@HotRocks Why are you putting copper in the transfer bucket if they are going into new QT that has no copper?

 

[HotRocks]

@HotRocks Why are you putting copper in the transfer bucket if they are going into new QT that has no copper?

There is a very very slight chance of grabbing a viable tomont when netting the fish out of the copper QT.

So the copper in the bucket would still shield the fish if that happened. Then very carefully moving them from the bucket to the clean sterile tank by hand should prevent any mishaps.

 

[joec]

"I do use newly mixed water dosed with copper matching the tank they are coming out of for the transfer bucket."

Question, why is it necessary to have matched copper or any copper in the momentary transfer QT bucket water?