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[nintendee]

I tried posting this already so hopefully there’s not two but i chose a larger argonite sand for my substrate because i already had a ton and im dirt broke haha but i have some questions regarding the use of sand sifting gobis, snails, and anemone, are the rocks too big for snails or gobis or to big for anemone to move on if they need, i will be adding 2 more life rocks from caribsea just saving up money for them but before i get too carried away i want to know if im screwed for using such a large sand i’m not certain the mm size because i am not home at the moment but i have some pictures i took while the salt was mixing and i just had set the tank up anything helps thank you!!!!

 

[Subsea]

Why do you feel that it is a tooo large sand? It does not look large to me.
Anemones & snails will move over boulders, so substrate size means nothing to them. However, if substrate is large, then detritus has a place to accumulate. For that purpose, you need detrivores like pods and worms.

Most reefers stay away from tiny sand due to its tendacy to be blown around by the circulation that is required in most reef tanks.

What is the products name that you purchased?

Also, better describe how you are cycling this tank?

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“I tried posting this already so hopefully there’s not two“

@nintendee
PS: I found three threads in three different forums with this post.

 

[nintendee]

Why do you feel that it is a tooo large sand? It does not look large to me.
Anemones & snails will move over boulders, so substrate size means nothing to them. However, if substrate is large, then detritus has a place to accumulate. For that purpose, you need detrivores like pods and worms.

Most reefers stay away from tiny sand due to its tendacy to be blown around by the circulation that is required in most reef tanks.

What is the products name that you purchased?

Also, better describe how you are cycling this tank?

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“I tried posting this already so hopefully there’s not two“

@nintendee
PS: I found three threads in three different forums with this post.

I am using the Fritz Turbo start 900 tomorrow and adding 2 Black clowns at the same time my ammonia is .25 now so the turbo start should do well and then thrive off the clownfish poop. I talked to my local fish store and they say they have a big diamond gobi they let sift in sand that size so i’m not too worried anymore. I just need to know what the best snails are that can self upright to be safe.

 

[Subsea]

I am using the Fritz Turbo start 900 tomorrow and adding 2 Black clowns at the same time my ammonia is .25 now so the turbo start should do well and then thrive off the clownfish poop. I talked to my local fish store and they say they have a big diamond gobi they let sift in sand that size so i’m not too worried anymore. I just need to know what the best snails are that can self upright to be safe.

Your tank is too new to be concerned about snails. However, big snails have more difficulty in self righting.

How have you cycled this tank is the BIG Question?

 

[TX_REEF]

I am using the Fritz Turbo start 900 tomorrow and adding 2 Black clowns at the same time my ammonia is .25 now so the turbo start should do well and then thrive off the clownfish poop. I talked to my local fish store and they say they have a big diamond gobi they let sift in sand that size so i’m not too worried anymore. I just need to know what the best snails are that can self upright to be safe.

My comments

• it's rather cruel to add fish to a tank that isn't cycled yet, they'll probably survive but won't be comfortable while ammonia is present
• nassarius snails are good sand stirrers and can self-right. trochus snails are great algae eaters and can self-right. Don't add these until you're fully cycled, they will get killed by the unstable water chemistry or starve to death in a new tank without algae or detritus
• don't add an anemone until you are 100% sure the tank is stable. This generally occurs at the 6-12 month mark depending on your level of attention and care. If you add it earlier, it will die, and you will have wasted money and possibly kill your other inhabitants.

 

[nintendee]

I am using the Fritz Turbo start 900 tomorrow and adding 2 Black clowns at the same time my ammonia is .25 now so the turbo start should do well and then thrive off the clownfish poop. I talked to my local fish store and they say they have a big diamond gobi they let sift in sand that size so i’m not too worried anymore. I just need to know what the best snails are that can self upright to be safe.

My comments

• it's rather cruel to add fish to a tank that isn't cycled yet, they'll probably survive but won't be comfortable while ammonia is present
• nassarius snails are good sand stirrers and can self-right. trochus snails are great algae eaters and can self-right. Don't add these until you're fully cycled, they will get killed by the unstable water chemistry or starve to death in a new tank without algae or detritus
• don't add an anemone until you are 100% sure the tank is stable. This generally occurs at the 6-12 month mark depending on your level of attention and care. If you add it earlier, it will die, and you will have wasted money and possibly kill your other inhabitants.

I’m pretty new to the saltwater side of the hobby and i’ve been recommended fritz turbo start with either clowns or dosing ammonia, i know it might be mean to the fish but i’m not sure i’d be able to dose ammonia correctly
thanks for the help on the snails and not adding coral or anemone for at least 6 months, from the research i’ve done the fritz is the fastest cycle technique with some people not even getting any ammonia spikes at all after adding 1 dose of fritz nitrifying bacteria

 

[Mr. Mojo Rising]

I think the sand is fine to be honest, I doubt there will be any issue. However, the lack of rocks is an issue, I know you mentioned your situation at the moment but I would prioritize more rock over more fish as the next purchase, rock is the most important part of the tank for many reasons.

A pinch of fish food would cycle the tank for you, cycling without fish is that easy.

This is a great article for beginners if you haven't seen it yet. Good luck.

The Supreme Guide To Setting Up A Saltwater Reef Aquarium

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www.reef2reef.com

 

[ScottJ]

Do yourself and any future critters and read this BEFORE you move forward with anything;
The Supreme Guide To Setting Up A Saltwater Reef Aquarium | REEF2REEF Saltwater and Reef Aquarium Forum

It will answer many questions you may have

 

[ScottJ]

I think the sand is fine to be honest, I doubt there will be any issue. However, the lack of rocks is an issue, I know you mentioned your situation at the moment but I would prioritize more rock over more fish as the next purchase, rock is the most important part of the tank for many reasons.

A pinch of fish would cycle the tank for you, cycling without fish is that easy.

This is a great article for beginners if you haven't seen it yet. Good luck.

The Supreme Guide To Setting Up A Saltwater Reef Aquarium

The Supreme Guide To Setting Up A Saltwater Reef Aquarium Introduction The marine environment is one of the most complex systems on the planet. The aquarium you are about to set up is only a tiny sliver of the vast ocean, but it is nowhere near simple. This task is going to take patience, a...

www.reef2reef.com

You beat me! (I had a wiener dog climb up on my lap and get in my face while I was typing)

 

[Subsea]

I’m pretty new to the saltwater side of the hobby and i’ve been recommended fritz turbo start with either clowns or dosing ammonia, i know it might be mean to the fish but i’m not sure i’d be able to dose ammonia correctly
thanks for the help on the snails and not adding coral or anemone for at least 6 months, from the research i’ve done the fritz is the fastest cycle technique with some people not even getting any ammonia spikes at all after adding 1 dose of fritz nitrifying bacteria

I have been addicted for 55 years and I am not new to marine ecosystems. We used to throw a dead shrimp in a tank with a handful of substrate from an established healthy reef tank, when shrimp turned pink we did a partial water change and added fish.

Now, I add live rock for biodiversity. Do yourself & fish a favor and add some more structure to provide a suitable sanctuary for live fish.

 

[nintendee]

I’m pretty new to the saltwater side of the hobby and i’ve been recommended fritz turbo start with either clowns or dosing ammonia, i know it might be mean to the fish but i’m not sure i’d be able to dose ammonia correctly
thanks for the help on the snails and not adding coral or anemone for at least 6 months, from the research i’ve done the fritz is the fastest cycle technique with some people not even getting any ammonia spikes at all after adding 1 dose of fritz nitrifying bacteria

I’m about to order 2 of the 12 pound mushroom dry life rocks from carib sea so that should fill out nice!!! I should be okay adding them after the fact of the water being in correct? As long as there dry and not carrying dangerous pathogens or disease.

 

[Subsea]

I’m about to order 2 of the 12 pound mushroom dry life rocks from carib sea so that should fill out nice!!!

Dry rocks are fine for structure; caves and hiding places. I use Texas holy rock from limestone deposits as dry rock. However, real live rock has biodiversity, which bacteria in a bottle does not have. Dr Tims provides denitrification bacteria, yet there are many other functions performed by different bacteria.

 

[nintendee]

I’m about to order 2 of the 12 pound mushroom dry life rocks from carib sea so that should fill out nice!!!

Hey rocks are fine for structure , caves and hiding places. I use Texas holy rock from limestone deposits as dry rock. However, real live rock has biodiversity, which bacteria in a bottle does not have. Dr Tims provides denitrification bacteria, yet there are many other functions performed by different bacteria.

I can add the rocks after the fact of most of the aquascape being done? Because they are dry so not dangerous